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tifferoo
01-30-2004, 10:55 AM
Sorry yall, this is very long. Df and I had our first big fight last night. :cry: Wednesday I was so mad with him. :vent: We had gone to see the site he booked for our wedding (it was my first time seeing it). I liked it but I pictured more for my wedding ceremony site. Afterwards I asked him to drive to another site that someone else had recommended for us as well. When we got there, I noticed that they had a cute chapel on the grounds. So when we got to the office I asked questions about rental and they gave me a rate sheet to look at first. I saw that the chapel rented for a reasonable amount of money but so as the lady was showing us the banquet rooms, I started asking questions about the chapel and I asked if we could look at it as well. She told me that we could look through the window but no one was available at that moment to take us over there. We knew right off that the banquet rooms weren't for us because they were small but I wanted to go and check out the chapel because I thought that this could be another option since we wouldn't be able to book a church on Sunday morning anyway for our Wedding.

When we got out of the bldg. heading back to the car, df says to me "Why are you wasting our time going to look at that chapel?" I said that I just wanted to look at it because if it was nice and we booked it, it prevent us from having to rent the reception site for the entire weekend for wedding decorations. And I am thinking :stupid:. He drove over there with a big attitude (mind you, my mom went with us as well). He pulls over to the side of the chapel and I said if you don't want to get out and look, you don't have to. Well needless to say, he didn't get out. I looked into it and it wasn't a huge chapel, but I felt like it could work for us. I get back into the vehicle and my mom asked me how did I like it and I told her that I would talk to her about it later. Df and I didn't say anthing to each other for the entire ride back home. When we dropped my mom off at home, I stayed in the vehicle to talk to df and I asked him why he shut down like that when I wanted to look at the chapel and he said that he thought that we had decided to have our wedding/reception in the same place. I told him that we made that decision due to the fact that we wanted leave for our honeymoon directly after our wedding which leaves that Sunday, the day of the wedding. We knew that everyone in creation would be having church service that morning so it was no way that we could have the wedding in a church since we were forced to have a morning wedding until I found this chapel. It is 5 mins away from our reception site so I couldn't understand why he didn't want the wedding there. So he tells me that he had counted on having the wedding/reception in the same place so we could spend more time with our families. He then tells me that he would have to pray about it. I told him that he could have at least looked at the chapel since he knew that I always wanted a church wedding. I got out the vehicle and we talked later that day but he never said anymore about it.

Then yesterday he called me but he never brought it up again. Later in the conversation, he tells me that although he didn't agree with me about not putting the registry cards in our invitations (he wants them in there) we could not put them in there and that we could just agree to not agree about it. I then told him that he was just giving in on that issue so I would be forced to give in on the chapel issue. He starts to laugh and say "it's funny how you women think". By this point I am :fmad:. He then tells me that he didn't have a chance to pray about it but he was going to pray that God would change my mind about wanting to have the wedding there! The nerve of him! I thought that a wedding was supposed to be mostly the bride's special day! I then told him that I prayed to God to soften his heart about not having the wedding there and I asked him who did he think God should listen to, him or me (that was a stupid question to ask, I see that now...lol). He told me that he thought that the chapel was too small and all of our family and friends wouldn't be able to fit in there. I told him that I wasn't getting married to show off to people and to have everybody there, if that was the case, we could have gotten married on a Saturday and everyone in creation would come. He picked our wedding date which just so happened to be on a Sunday. I wanted a beautiful spiritual wedding that was in a church on a Sunday. I have been planning since day one to be in a church. He then tells me that a church is just a building and that we could put a sign outside of the reception hall for that day re-naming it for our church. Again I think :stupid:. He said if we have it in two places, we couldn't spend as much time with our families. I keep saying over and over, I don't care who is there, the most important thing is that we are getting married to each other. The president could be there and I wouldn't pay any attention to nobody but my new husband. He then tells me that if I want to, I can change the wedding to Saturday and we can have the wedding at any church that we want to have it in! I told him that I didn't want to do that either and after a moment of silence from both of us, he tells me "I love you and good night!" and hangs up the phone. I was so mad, all I could do was crawl in the bed and cover my head! He called me back at 12 to ask me a question about my mama but that was it. I went to bed mad and I never wanted it to be like that.

Do you think that I am in the wrong about this?




andrea
01-30-2004, 11:33 AM
I am not the best person for advice, and i problery shouldnt be the first to say anything.

but i think both of you should be happy on the day and time and where you are getting married at.

when we first started planning we had a place booked in st. thomas about 3 years ago. then we changed our mines..

oh man i cant tell you how many dates we set and never stuck to it, not because we didnt want to get married it was because we couldnt find the "right" place.

once we thought of vegas it all felt right...

so i guess all i can say is that it needs to feel right for both of you,

hoped that helped some

nana
02-02-2004, 01:49 PM
Tifferoo...I am so sorry you guys are having this arguement. I understand about wanting to have a church wedding. That is the only reason that is keeping me from going to the Virgin Islands and getting married. Weddings and Marriages are about compromises, I think you and your DF need to come up with a list of reasons for and against having the wedding & reception in two different places. This might help you discuss it without fighting.

I know you too will work it out. Just breathe and relax! It will be ok!

tifferoo
02-02-2004, 03:46 PM
I appreciate your advice Loveshack. You are right, we both should be happy.

That's a great idea Nana, thanks! I think I will start with my list before I talk to him about it. Maybe I will change my mind.

nana
02-02-2004, 04:12 PM
Let me know how it goes!

Good Luck!

tifferoo
02-04-2004, 01:26 PM
Nana and Loveshack,

I just wanted you to know that we had a civil conversation last night about this situation and I told him that I am in agreement with having the wedding/ceremony at the same place. After I thought about it, we are going to be on a very tight schedule and having to travel between too places would push things for time and would cost us more and cause more stress me and on my decorator. So I am just going to have to decorate the reception site in a manner that would make me think that I am in a church!! I am really ok with it and I also asked him if we could push our wedding time up to 10am because I am really ready to dive into this marriage, I don't want to wait all day to do it...lol.

Thanks again for your .02 ladies!

nana
02-04-2004, 03:45 PM
Tifferoo,

Glad you and your DF worked things out. Your wedding is going to be just perfect!

Mrs. July
02-06-2004, 04:06 AM
I know you have already resolved your problem tifferoo, but I wanted to add that your future husband's proposal of putting registry cards in with the invitations is one of the biggest wedding no-no's. I actually received three registry cards with an invitation for a wedding last August and we were so offended we declined. In fact, so many invitees had declined for this reason that they sent out a second batch of response cards with a note apologizing for the move, but by then people had already made other plans and they had a very poor turnout. I'm not suggesting your fiance is greedy (as this couple was), but it may cause people to wonder if they being invited for the wrong reason.

tifferoo
02-06-2004, 07:21 AM
I know Mrs. July. I feel like if we are inviting people, they shouldn't be guilted into buying us a gift. Df's entire family puts these cards in the invites and he doesn't see the wrong in it. If we are not going to put them in the invitations, he doesn't see the need to even start a registry. I guess I will have to do that by myself.

tifferoo
02-09-2004, 01:57 PM
I am getting those bad vibes from my fmil again. I really hate feeling like this but I just feel like she is trying to make things difficult for me. After the meeting was over (we had the meeting at her house but she left while everything was going on), she looked at the picture of the dress I picked out and asked me if everyone had to get their own dress made. I told her that I wanted everyone to use the same seamstress that I picked so all of the dresses could be uniform. She then asked me how much she charged. She told me that she thought that my seamstress was charging too much. I knew this was coming because df told me that she wanted me to use her seamstress but I am not confortable with this person because he is a man and he has some other things going on with him. I like the seamstress I picked, I can work well with her and talk to her. Plus her shop is not too far away from my house. I tried to talk to my mom about it and she agrees with fmil that the dresses are too expensive. I don't know if they are just too old to know how much these things should cost or if they are just trying to go against me on everything. I didn't hear one complaint from my bridesmaids about the cost so I don't know if they think it is too much but I know that I was supposed to be in a wedding last year and we were renting our dresses and it cost $125 bucks. My bridesmaids will pay close to $150 but they get to keep their dresses.

My mom has been complaining since day one that I shouldn't have a big wedding because it is costing too much money. I just wished that I could zap myself away until October 10th so I wouldn't have to deal with any of these people!

nana
02-09-2004, 02:28 PM
I personally don't understand why our mothers and MIL can't just let us be happy. I am sorry you are going though this. I know it is very fustrating.

My mom and I actually got in a very similar disagreement about the wedding. And when I told her that I was going to do it my way...she said "you would have to do it my way if I was paying for it" NUMBER ONE REASON SHE'S NOT!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope things get better, but just incase...I will start working on a time machine to get us to the end of the year quicker!

tifferoo
02-09-2004, 04:27 PM
Hurry up and finish that time machine project Nana! I think a lot of brides will buy your product...lol.

yonksgirl
02-10-2004, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. July
I know you have already resolved your problem tifferoo, but I wanted to add that your future husband's proposal of putting registry cards in with the invitations is one of the biggest wedding no-no's. I actually received three registry cards with an invitation for a wedding last August and we were so offended we declined. In fact, so many invitees had declined for this reason that they sent out a second batch of response cards with a note apologizing for the move, but by then people had already made other plans and they had a very poor turnout. I'm not suggesting your fiance is greedy (as this couple was), but it may cause people to wonder if they being invited for the wrong reason.

WOW now I fell like an idiot!!!!!:( WE put them in ours. The place we registered gave them to us, and everyone we asked said that is what you do with them. I feel horrable now I almost want to write everyone a note saying how sorry I am.

yonksgirl
02-10-2004, 12:09 PM
My bridesmaids will pay close to $150 but they get to keep their dresses.

That is a great price!! My girls paid $185.00 for theirs and we all did not think that was bad. If your girls are OK with it tell your FMIL in the nicest way poss. to shove it! ;) It is your wedding not hers. I am sure everyone will get over it.I do not know why but when it comes to weddings everyone's claws come out.

Mrs. July
02-11-2004, 02:57 AM
Please! A bridesmaid dress from a bridal shop costs $150 plus all of the other fees for alterations, so what they're paying a great price for custom gowns. I know it's hard when you're excited about something, but maybe you should stop sharing wedding details with them for a while so you can make decisions without all of the negative input. It's a lot harder for people to second guess you when they don't know what to complain about.

Mrs. July
02-11-2004, 03:04 AM
Originally posted by yonksgirl
WOW now I fell like an idiot!!!!!:( WE put them in ours. The place we registered gave them to us, and everyone we asked said that is what you do with them. I feel horrable now I almost want to write everyone a note saying how sorry I am.

Hey, don't feel bad.:) You didn't know any better and the registry people should have, so shame on them, not you.

tifferoo
02-11-2004, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by Mrs. July
I know it's hard when you're excited about something, but maybe you should stop sharing wedding details with them for a while so you can make decisions without all of the negative input. It's a lot harder for people to second guess you when they don't know what to complain about.

When I don't talk to my mom about the wedding details, she tells fh that I am not including her and I don't talk to her. I pretty much didn't tell her about the prices of the dress until I had this incident with my fmil.

The reason I told fmil about the prices when she asked was because my fsils are in the wedding so I couldn't keep the prices a secret. I pretty much don't talk to fmil about the wedding unless she asks me a question about it. FH talks to her instead. Fh also asked me why the seamstress was charging so much but I just figured he was listening to his mom complain about it so he wanted to find out himself. I know fh has no idea how much these things cost but he should compare his groommen's tuxedo prices to my bridesmaids prices. His groomsmen are paying $94 bucks to rent a tux and they don't get to keep anything. My girls are paying $150 but they get to keep everything! It's just about a $60 difference!

We gave everyone an option of getting out of the wedding if they can't afford it. I won't get mad at anyone if they do. I will get mad if they complain about it though and I promise you I will suggest in a nice way that they get out if they start complaining!

Mrs. July
02-11-2004, 03:53 PM
Sheesh, sounds like you can't win no matter what you do.:rolleyes: I have to say though, I wish all brides would be as understanding with their attendants as you are. My husband's best friend is getting married in August and he's a groomsman, but this past weekend they switched the location from Chicago to Philly and our expenses have jumped from $500 to $3000:eek:

tifferoo
02-11-2004, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. July
My husband's best friend is getting married in August and he's a groomsman, but this past weekend they switched the location from Chicago to Philly and our expenses have jumped from $500 to $3000:eek:

Wow, I would have to decline being in that wedding. Good grief!!!

nana
02-11-2004, 04:17 PM
I think it is unfair that men can rent a tux from 50 to 100 dollars and women have to pay so much for bridesmaid dresses. I really hope that we can keep the cost at around 150 for my dresses as well. I think that is really resonable. I hope things improve with your MIL and mom.

Good Luck

tifferoo
02-13-2004, 09:00 AM
Just when I think the worse about my fmil, she turns around and does something nice. Last night, she and my ffil gave fh $500 towards our honeymoon! Now we only have a couple of hundred dollars left to finish paying for our cruise!

yonksgirl
02-13-2004, 12:35 PM
I am so glad to hear things are going good for you! :D

tifferoo
02-25-2004, 01:32 PM
Now I am kind of stressed out because my maid of honor and one of the groomsmen started dating. They went out to eat for valentine's day and he bought her flowers and a teddy bear. He has sinced brought her new hubcaps for her car and has gotten some things fixed on her car. I just found all of this out on Monday but I also found out the same day that everyone in df's family is mad with my maid of honor because they think that she is using this groomsman who is also df's cousin. Df and I agreed that we are not going to get into this little "affair" but I am worried that if things don't work out with them, both of them might be walking down the aisle with frowns on their faces. :(

Have any of you had any romances brew from your wedding parties and if so how did it affect the wedding if things turned for the worse?

Mrs. July
02-25-2004, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by tifferoo
Have any of you had any romances brew from your wedding parties and if so how did it affect the wedding if things turned for the worse?

One of our groomsmen was dating my SIL (a bridesmaid) and it didn't have much of an impact on our wedding when they broke up, because they chose not to let it. They were completely civil to one another and even shared a couple of dances, which said a lot since they didn't part on friendly terms.

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